![]() To all the people defending nighthammer, are you ok with this? If you have to prioritize (and sometimes you do), then you go with what gives you the most bang (damage) for the buck (threat). Heroic strike generates a heap more damage than sunder. My blue mace-wielding, gets played once every few weeks fury warrior wishes she had your 21:28. ![]() I really don't care about him one way or you now you are saying it is okay to adjust your attacks based on the situation, and that it is not a "no excuses" must-always-use spell after all? So glad we are in to hear it went down like that. ![]() If I don't know in advance which my tank is, I'm going to assume terribad until shown otherwise. Unfortunately, while some DK tanks are great and most are adequate, some are terribad, and couldn't hold aggro off a kitten. And yes, when I do, I have little trouble an adequate amount of threat. I do on occasion tank with my DK, although it's not my specialty. All this accomplished was to undermine Treeston and I believe this is what led to your failure in RS not non-progession mentality. "I declared openly that this raid has no chance with such trash and the raid disbanded." As the person who suggested the idea AND as the person who was not the raid leader you were way out of line. If someone randomly pulls for the 4th time if just says even more strongly to me that group was not capable. If the pugs perform well and chip in an extra 15% that is great but don't count on them for 15%. ".even though we overgear it terribly." Any hard mode of any size that is done the raid leader should count of the guild bearing 100% of the work load. "I suggested to do FL+4 since it's an easy achievement spam and will motivate the people later."Įither being or not being the raid leader this was a very poor suggestion with far too much personal motivation behind it. Unless I miss read your post I believe Treeston organized the raid and therefore he was the raid leader. But not with "let's just zerg it and loot" people, no matter how good they are.ĭaniel found this wonderful specimen of the M&S crowd: He can be done, and can be done with new people. 31% of the guilds killed Halion! He is current content, hard content. If there is just one person who did not do it, or did it in other role, you must approach with progression mentality (unless the content is a joke). But that does not mean that any 10 guildmembers did it or can do it. The team that killed Halion on the first day he was available to us were 10 guildmembers. Considering the guild "we" is social and therefore absolutely wrong. the picture shows that it was firstkill for half the raid, including a tank. If you are not, go do some 5-mans or log off!Īlso, I've seen "we killed him several times FFS!". You must be ready to wipe, to adapt, to learn. What I've learned: you can't go to current content without progression mentality. Mistakes multiplied instead of decreased. We did not want to wipe and when we did, we got upset instead of evaluating the problems and try again. On Monday we went in with the same mentality we have when Patchwerk hands over 5 frost badges. As revenge-beyond-the-grave he dropped two items that we couldn't use for anything but disenchant. We changed the groups (shadow, fire), made macros, changed the strategy (left the fire tank outside, so Halion didn't kill fire-team if the tank was blocked from the portal by cutter), and finally he hit the ground. Halion is the latest raid of the game, with several new mechanic (twilight cutter, corporeality, pulling-pushing AoE). On Tuesday we went there with progression mentality. Next day I put him on the calendar, organized a raid and after several wipes:Īs you can see I did not bring the hard mode core to Halion. However after this disaster we went to Halion for an "easy run" to do something good after wasting about an hour with such idiots. In ICC they at least want some gear and fear of being kicked (= saved without loot), in other places they just don't give a damn. OK: "raiding anything but ICC with trade chat people is bad idea" is not news to anyone. And these were filtered people, the gemless-enchantless "Rofldots" class people were rejected. I declared openly that this raid has no chance with such trash and the raid disbanded. The raid leader was explained the fight, and some moron got bored, and without a word just pulled. We wiped 5 times on it, and out of the wipes just one was a real attempt. Also it's a great fight, even though we overgear it terribly. I suggested to do FL+4 since it's an easy achievement spam and will motivate the people later. Half the raid is from the guild, the other is from trade chat. ![]() On Tuesday, Treeston organized an Ulduar 25 to complete his mace.
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